Some thoughts after first purchase of Zelex 170 C
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Some thoughts after first purchase of Zelex 170 C
1. Box is much heavier than my expectation, although I’m well mentally prepared for the 40-ish kg weight…. It doesn’t come with some grips, very hard to move around. The edge of box is longer than my arms, so cannot put force easily, only take it out of box need a lot of efforts. I think they should improve the unboxing experience given the price tag, see what Apple do, the dolls are not cheaper than their products.
2. The wig!! Hairs are everywhere, and silicone is a perfect sticky material for hairs! I have no experience before so don’t know wether it’s normal for wig, or is it because of the wig they used is low quality ones. I ordered 2 heads, one with short hair another long hair, after struggling put the short hair wig into place, I have no interest to try long hair one…. Maybe someday in the future.
3. Weight is only one issue, stiffness of joints is another. I know stiffness is necessary otherwise it could not hold the pose, but I may guess the resistance force inside the joints is much bigger than gravity of the weight when you move the arms and legs. It makes the doll more like an exercise equipment, and sure it is
4. Silicone looks good but touches not. I’m very impressed with their realistic painting, but the silicone comes with no skins and muscles. It’s also stiff even with the gel update for breasts, still a considerable difference with real ones.
5. Vagina is as hard as silicone should be. You can hardly insert your tools blindly as you do with real girls, the hole is not so soft and accessible. But the stimulation is actually significantly higher than real vagina, which might feels better for guys who overused their tools masturbating.
6. Free gifts are cheap and low quality, such as lubricants, cleaning tools and combs. Not useful at all, probably worth $1 at most. If you want to save cost, just don’t give them as gifts, I have to discard them and feeling disrespectful.
7. What’s the future? Over the past few years, the tech tree in this industry all comes to reality painting and some sort of money grabbing updates such as “sucking vagina” “auto heat” “auto moaning”(why don’t I just put a phone beside and playing porns?), theses updates are surely overpriced and according to the reviews they are sometimes even malfunctioned. After all, it’s still mainly treated as a “sex toy industry”, not some kinds of high-tech and robotics. As a “sex toy”, I think they are not treated seriously enough: non ergonomic unboxing, cheap gifts, low quality accessaries, only the texture of silicone body and the painting is good enough. We achieved a lot in the fields of mechanics, physics, medical, robotics. Use your high end technology, apply some synthetic skins and muscle tissues, build the anatomical human bone structures(as they ‘ve already done in the structure of hands now). Hire some mechanical engineers to design joints with damping construct, use your automatic control system knowledges, build a feedback system, make it easier to move the joints. Sadly, it’s just a unrealistic dream, we still have a long way to go.
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They need a decent product manager haha. Btw how much baby powder is needed? I tried to apply some but it will last only a few minutes, and damaged my bed everywhere..crazedcat wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 5:02 am Like bbc said, powder her lightly with some cornstarch and that'll help prevent the wig hairs from sticking all over her. Tight joints upon arrival are a good thing IMO because they will loosen over time and use so you'll have to tough it out for a bit. Sucks to hear that gel breasts aren't as soft as you had hoped. I agree with you about all the "gimmicks"...time is better spent developing and perfecting softness and weight reduction. I mean, how many guys actually prefer a loud sucking vagina over a soft, realistic touch and a doll that's lightweight?
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The Zelex joints just seem to come tighter out of the box -- this makes them great for photography/posing but can be more work to move around. The LH's on mine are unusable, too hard and unforgiving, even the inserts for the removable vagina are uncomfortable. The silicone, as you said, is kind of hard. It is very durable but not the nicest thing to squeeze.
If you buy a higher quality wig that will help with the shedding/sticking of hairs, along with powdering the doll.
Did you get the inspiration series heads? That is my favorite part of the Zelex I bought. For me the oral function is amazing.
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First of all, welcome to TDF JOKER66666!JOKER66666 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 3:40 am First thing first, I’m not “complaining” something, just sharing some experiences. Good things we all know and don’t need my effort to repeat again, bad things are more helpful. Overall I’m quite satisfied with the purchase:)
1. Box is much heavier than my expectation, although I’m well mentally prepared for the 40-ish kg weight…. It doesn’t come with some grips, very hard to move around. The edge of box is longer than my arms, so cannot put force easily, only take it out of box need a lot of efforts. I think they should improve the unboxing experience given the price tag, see what Apple do, the dolls are not cheaper than their products.
2. The wig!! Hairs are everywhere, and silicone is a perfect sticky material for hairs! I have no experience before so don’t know wether it’s normal for wig, or is it because of the wig they used is low quality ones. I ordered 2 heads, one with short hair another long hair, after struggling put the short hair wig into place, I have no interest to try long hair one…. Maybe someday in the future.
3. Weight is only one issue, stiffness of joints is another. I know stiffness is necessary otherwise it could not hold the pose, but I may guess the resistance force inside the joints is much bigger than gravity of the weight when you move the arms and legs. It makes the doll more like an exercise equipment, and sure it is
4. Silicone looks good but touches not. I’m very impressed with their realistic painting, but the silicone comes with no skins and muscles. It’s also stiff even with the gel update for breasts, still a considerable difference with real ones.
5. Vagina is as hard as silicone should be. You can hardly insert your tools blindly as you do with real girls, the hole is not so soft and accessible. But the stimulation is actually significantly higher than real vagina, which might feels better for guys who overused their tools masturbating.
6. Free gifts are cheap and low quality, such as lubricants, cleaning tools and combs. Not useful at all, probably worth $1 at most. If you want to save cost, just don’t give them as gifts, I have to discard them and feeling disrespectful.
7. What’s the future? Over the past few years, the tech tree in this industry all comes to reality painting and some sort of money grabbing updates such as “sucking vagina” “auto heat” “auto moaning”(why don’t I just put a phone beside and playing porns?), theses updates are surely overpriced and according to the reviews they are sometimes even malfunctioned. After all, it’s still mainly treated as a “sex toy industry”, not some kinds of high-tech and robotics. As a “sex toy”, I think they are not treated seriously enough: non ergonomic unboxing, cheap gifts, low quality accessaries, only the texture of silicone body and the painting is good enough. We achieved a lot in the fields of mechanics, physics, medical, robotics. Use your high end technology, apply some synthetic skins and muscle tissues, build the anatomical human bone structures(as they ‘ve already done in the structure of hands now). Hire some mechanical engineers to design joints with damping construct, use your automatic control system knowledges, build a feedback system, make it easier to move the joints. Sadly, it’s just a unrealistic dream, we still have a long way to go.
I would now like to congratulate you on your purchase, but somehow I read dissatisfaction between the lines.
I'll try to respond constructively to your points here.
point number 1:
I don't think anything can really be improved here, except the interior, which ensures that the doll arrives safe and sound. But from the outside? If you take into account how big the dolls are and how big the packaging has to be in order to be able to transport them reasonably safely, I really don't see any possibility of improvement. A material that would allow handles would drive up the costs extremely.
point 2:
As others here have rightly said, it helps a lot to powder the doll, either with baby powder or cornstarch.
The problem is the static charge on the doll, the powder helps and it gets even better if you moisten the wig with a damp cloth.
point3:
Most people here, including me, like the joints to be tighter because it's perfect for photos. But I read from your entire post that you probably bought a doll for shared fun. In this case, all you need to know is that the joints will become easier to move over time.
point 4:
That's exactly the reason why I personally prefer TPE dolls, TPE is simply perfect for cuddling and making love. Silicone is easier to clean and keep clean and it looks a lot more realistic and Zelex has damn pretty dolls. But then we're back to the point of photography. Silicone is more for the eye and TPE is more for the feel. There are now silicone manufacturers who achieve a similar, if not better, feeling with silicone dolls than TPE manufacturers, but that is in a completely different price range.
point 5:
Sex with a doll doesn't feel like real sex, no matter what material they are made of, but I agree with you that the stimulation can sometimes be much more intense than with a real woman.
point 6::
I had to smile here because that was exactly my first thought when I unpacked a doll for the first time. The "extras" are really a joke and you're right, you could really save the $1. On the whole, these "gifts" make the whole product look cheaper.
point 7:
I completely agree with you here!
I wish you a great time with your Zelex and I hope you will show some pics of her:)
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She now lives in her box under a large table. When I take her out I slide the box out, lift one end onto the table and then pick up the other side and slide onto the table. This way I only ever lift 50% of the weight. I can then take her out of the box working by standing up so I don’t have to bend down to pick her out. After 2 hip replacements I have to be careful.
So key is get some kit like a trolley and then leverage where you are to minimize the weight lifting