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There are sex doll brothels all over the world, especially in Europe. What do you think about these kinds of brothels, since there are some law conditions like Houston voted to ban sex robot brothels in 2018?

What is the line for these sex doll brothels to stick to? Would you choose to go to sex robot brothels?❤️‍🔥

Do you think it is the future like what happened in Westworld, Black Mirror, or any more positive future?

One owner of the Sex Robot Brothels says: “This place is ethical because there are no exploitations.”

Leave comments. your point of view, and information below. We can dig deep into the sex doll world together!🎊🎊✨ :glou:
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LoveNestle wrote: Mon May 20, 2024 5:16 am There are sex doll brothels all over the world, especially in Europe. What do you think about these kinds of brothels, since there are some law conditions like Houston voted to ban sex robot brothels in 2018?

What is the line for these sex doll brothels to stick to? Would you choose to go to sex robot brothels?❤️‍🔥

Do you think it is the future like what happened in Westworld, Black Mirror, or any more positive future?

One owner of the Sex Robot Brothels says: “This place is ethical because there are no exploitations.”

Leave comments. your point of view, and information below. We can dig deep into the sex doll world together!🎊🎊✨ :glou:
Hi LoveNestle another thought-provoking topic. The line between test-driving a product and a brothel is the realism level. Even without AI, dehumanizing something human-looking can set a dangerous example which maybe behind Houston's example.

With AI, the line is even clearer against 3rd party profiteering from a brothel unless, like many countries, only the individual offering the service is profiting and 3rd party profiteering is illegal. This raises the issue of equal rights for AI that Westworld brings up.
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Interesting - so if your married and go there and become addicted/hooked - the Doll can easily become " the other woman" - would the wife see it any differently - on the other hand are you no longer a pimp or madam if your not taking advantage of a "real " woman as Synthian points out

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Once again you have brought up a subject that was big in the Media years ago, Sex Doll Brothels, they might be a big thing now days in the E.U. but I rarely if ever hear about them anymore here in the U.S. personally I think this is an outdated concept, this was great years ago when most people pictured a Sex Doll as a Blow Up Doll,a Sex Doll brothel would have introduced them to modern Lifelike Sex Dolls, but I do not think this is the case anymore... :D

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It's the future... especially when robotics catch up.. just a matter of when they are commonplace
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Dollfriend wrote: Mon May 20, 2024 11:22 am Once again you have brought up a subject that was big in the Media years ago, Sex Doll Brothels, they might be a big thing now days in the E.U. but I rarely if ever hear about them anymore here in the U.S. personally I think this is an outdated concept, this was great years ago when most people pictured a Sex Doll as a Blow Up Doll,a Sex Doll brothel would have introduced them to modern Lifelike Sex Dolls, but I do not think this is the case anymore... :D
Yeah, it was famous in 2018. I just think will there be something like this anymore in the future in the US? Since there has been a sex revolution this 50 years. Will people want something like this in their hometown, and will people who have sex dolls visit a place like a sex doll brothel? That is why I am curious. I think I would like to write a blog about it. :D :D

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I think sex doll brothels are good thing I don't see anything wrong in it. I don't use those though and it's kind of pointless since I think the cost is around same as in real hookers. It should be at least 4 times cheaper imo. So in Holland hooker cost 50-100€ and here in Finland there was sex doll brothel one time and the cost were 100€ which is way too much. Also I don't see it as competitor to real women, but if in the future sex dolls become androids then it's different. I personally rather buy my own dolls than use shared one though.
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I like to use the terms sex doll, robot, and android/whatever we decide to call them. A doll is basically what we have now. They're basically just a "dumb" facsimile, and some have motorized functions (like moving hips, etc). A sex robot would basically be a doll that is fully moveable, and has enough processing to control itself to perform a function. Similar to how that Boston Dynamic robot "knows" how to perform basic movements (like standing up, sitting down, walking, etc) and specialized functions (like lifting/moving boxes), a sex robot would possess basic movement and enough fine motor control to have sex with people, but it's not "thinking". An android is a robot that has an advanced enough AI that it is thinking/feeling/sentient or is capable enough at these things to make distinguishing whether it is or not is questionable. For example, that robot Sophia would fit the bill.

I feel like sex doll/robot brothels would have some niche interest, but I can't see them being that profitable once prostitution becomes legal. I guess they'll be used in the time between sex robots being available and when they become purchasable for regular consumers. Like, sex dolls used to be hella expensive and out of reach for most people, but they've become MUCH better in both quality and affordability as time has gone on.
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NightmareFiction wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 6:00 am I like to use the terms sex doll, robot, and android/whatever we decide to call them. A doll is basically what we have now. They're basically just a "dumb" facsimile, and some have motorized functions (like moving hips, etc). A sex robot would basically be a doll that is fully moveable, and has enough processing to control itself to perform a function. Similar to how that Boston Dynamic robot "knows" how to perform basic movements (like standing up, sitting down, walking, etc) and specialized functions (like lifting/moving boxes), a sex robot would possess basic movement and enough fine motor control to have sex with people, but it's not "thinking". An android is a robot that has an advanced enough AI that it is thinking/feeling/sentient or is capable enough at these things to make distinguishing whether it is or not is questionable. For example, that robot Sophia would fit the bill.

I feel like sex doll/robot brothels would have some niche interest, but I can't see them being that profitable once prostitution becomes legal. I guess they'll be used in the time between sex robots being available and when they become purchasable for regular consumers. Like, sex dolls used to be hella expensive and out of reach for most people, but they've become MUCH better in both quality and affordability as time has gone on.
I cannot agree more. AI sex bots or Android should focus more on developing psychological-level interactions. Elon Must is even crazier he is like he wants to produce a robot that can carry babies, which I believe is a sex doll. Let's see where this era would take us. Things are evolving.

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Dollfriend wrote: Mon May 20, 2024 11:22 am Once again you have brought up a subject that was big in the Media years ago, Sex Doll Brothels, they might be a big thing now days in the E.U. but I rarely if ever hear about them anymore here in the U.S. personally I think this is an outdated concept, this was great years ago when most people pictured a Sex Doll as a Blow Up Doll,a Sex Doll brothel would have introduced them to modern Lifelike Sex Dolls, but I do not think this is the case anymore... :D
Yes, "Interestingly we see a spike in 2018 (where the red “I” is). In mid-2018 “sex doll brothels” became a thing that popped up all over the world and caught huge attention. It is less popular today but received a lot of interest in 2018."

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IMHO

If sex dolls can help reduce sex exploitation and human trafficking, and minimize sexually transmitted diseases? IF yes ….by all means put sexdoll shops and robot brothels next to every Costco, Walmart and CVS!

What harm comes from fucking an inanimate object that looks like a human? Again depends on context, morality and mental health, addiction concerns or sanitizing health standards between users? I respect the POV of the jealous homewife (is it cheating? … check with your wife’s lawyer).

If a person (or sentient AI) wants to be a prostitute, escort, cam-gurl etc, and freely and of their own choice and will, (with safety and healthy wellbeing in mind) …. knock yourself out! It’s the worlds oldest profession for a reason. Moreover health and safety standards are one thing, but i don’t support the idea of passing radical subjective laws to restrict “sin” based on religious conservative righteousness.

It’s always good to have the discussion and LISTEN. If you don’t like it then don’t go to Westworld. But leave my doll choices out of the courts.

Side question … will sentient AI be given “human rights” or “free will”?
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"passing radical subjective laws to restrict “sin” based on religious conservative righteousness."

Yay! A sane person, unfortunately there is a very vocal and noisy group who think otherwise :(

Personally I find the use of the word "sin" is always associated with control, as I see it :)

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seagull wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 1:47 am SinsuaLuvr
"passing radical subjective laws to restrict “sin” based on religious conservative righteousness."

Yay! A sane person, unfortunately there is a very vocal and noisy group who think otherwise :(

Personally I find the use of the word "sin" is always associated with control, as I see it :)
Sin vs control…. Yes I can see that…

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SinsuaLuvr wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 11:31 pm IMHO

If sex dolls can help reduce sex exploitation and human trafficking, and minimize sexually transmitted diseases? IF yes ….by all means put sexdoll shops and robot brothels next to every Costco, Walmart and CVS!

What harm comes from fucking an inanimate object that looks like a human? Again depends on context, morality and mental health, addiction concerns or sanitizing health standards between users? I respect the POV of the jealous homewife (is it cheating? … check with your wife’s lawyer).

If a person (or sentient AI) wants to be a prostitute, escort, cam-gurl etc, and freely and of their own choice and will, (with safety and healthy wellbeing in mind) …. knock yourself out! It’s the worlds oldest profession for a reason. Moreover health and safety standards are one thing, but i don’t support the idea of passing radical subjective laws to restrict “sin” based on religious conservative righteousness.

It’s always good to have the discussion and LISTEN. If you don’t like it then don’t go to Westworld. But leave my doll choices out of the courts.

Side question … will sentient AI be given “human rights” or “free will”?
Just my 2 cents…
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